from Lois Kay (nee Lowndes)

28/06/2008 at 2:42 pm 17 comments

I have had a long interest in family background and only recently had the time to investigate. I discovered your website and have come to the conclusion that I am a descendant of the Overton Lowndes line.
My father was Bertie Alfred Lowndes, his father William Edward Lowndes (Master Mariner) born in New Plymouth, New Zealand and his father was Joseph Lowndes noted as a “Dealer”. This information is from the Marriage Certificate of William Edward Lowndes to Madeline Green 6 March 1899 in Auckland, New Zealand. My birth name was Lois Madeline Lowndes.
I was interested to read Ngaire’s note at the end of the commentary as it would be some 47 years since I saw Ngaire (probably apart from her father’s service in 1997).
Ngaire’s father Roy Lowndes and her uncle Noble Lowndes were cousins to my father. From memory they also had a brother Len.
I would be so pleased to receive any information you may have on my Great Grandfather, Joseph Lowndes. Joseph’s Mother’s name was Catherine Agnes Spears. Actually it looks more like Afnes but is probably Agnes.
Lois Kay (nee Lowndes)
Auckland, New Zealand
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Lois is happy for anyone to contact her about NZ lowndes – just comment on this post! – Mike
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  • 1. Margaret Louise Drody Thompson  |  06/07/2016 at 9:12 pm

    Could Christopher Lawne be an ancestor?
    I am still searching for the English ancestors to my Henry Lounds, settler to Virginia. Henry Lound was born about 1619 according to later depositions in Henrico County. “Henry Lownee” appeared first in Virginia as a headright when Michael Master obtained a patent for land in Bermuda Hundred, Henrico County in 1645. “Hen. Lownd” was later listed as a headright when Thomas Harris patented land in Lower Norfolk County in 1667. In March 1652 Henry Lowne patented 300 acres on the north side of the Appomattox River in Henrico County. His land was near that of Abraham Wood [7046.W]. Lound assigned this land to Thomas Wells before 1663 according to a 1672-patent issued to Wells. Lound later secured a patent on 516 acres in Henrico County on the south side of the James River in September 1674. He still owned this 516 acres in 1704. In 1690 the court confirmed Lound was due 200 acres for the importation of three “Negroes” and John Drake. Drake had been an indentured servant for Lound for at least four years.

    Mr. Henry Lound and his wife Ann, were socially prominent citizens of Henrico County. He served on Henrico County juries. Their children, both daughters, were Anne and Mary Lound. Mary married Mr. Henry Batte, and . Ann is my ancestress, marrying Henry Hatcher son of William, immigrant.

    Henry lived until November 1708, and left some of his estate to grandchildren, which was unique to have such a long life in those times.

    I have recently been researching the life of a Capt. Christopher Lawne, settler from England to Virginia to see if I could find a connection to him.. Not too much is known of this man’s history either. There is still a stream and a site named for him in Virginia.

    In late 1618 or early 1619, Sir Richard Worsley, knight baronet, of Appuldercombe, Isle of Wight, England, and his associates were granted a patent for a particular plantation by the Virginia Company. His associates were Capt. Christopher Lawne, Nathaniel Basse, John Hobson, Anthony Olevan, Richard Wiseman, Robert Newland, Robert Gyner and William Willis.

    To finance these ventures, The Virginia Company of London had been created with a charter issued by King James I in 1609. This profit-making company was organized by the ablest merchants, manufacturers, and statesmen of their time, including Bennett and Lawne. Some of the shareholders associated with the Virginia Company undertaking were leading artisans of London.

    On 27 April 1619, Captain Lawne arrived in the James River with a number of settlers on board The Marygold, commanded by Capt. Evans

    Capt Lawne had brought over 20 men with him for settlement. Lawne ‘planted’ his settlement at the mouth of a creek on the south shore of the James River, south east of Jamestown. He sited it on neck of land, now known as ‘Lawne’s Neck’, between the James River on the east and a creek,that subsequently became known as Lawne’s Creek, on the west, thus providing the settlement with protection against native attacks.

    Sometime in November 1619, Lawne and some of his settlement were struck down by disease and abandoned Lawne’s Plantation.

    The first clue to Christopher Lawne emerges in connection with the Barrowist and Brownist congregations in Amsterdam in the early seventeenth century. Both were separatist, Independent ‘puritan’ groups, advocating self-governing congregations. Both had emigrated from England in the last decade of Elizabeth I’s reign to escape religious persecution and benefit from the free religious atmosphere of Holland. While in Amsterdam, their church became known as the ” Exiled English Church”. It was from these congregations that the so-called “Pilgrim Fathers” – a term coined only in the 19th century – originat

    Other Lound, Lawne, Lowne members from England to Virginia
    Va Co. Records of 1622 1623 listed D’Lawne: Abraham and Gideon: Mr Gideon D’Lawne passed one share to his sonne Abra: D’Lawne: All wch were approued and confirmed

    Henry’s movements according to trips. It was the custom to share a trip with a neighbor for credit for land for bringing someone to the Colony.

    LAST FIRST ARRIVAL SPONSOR COUNTY
    —– —— ——- ——- ——

    Lownd Alexander 1637 Thomas Barnard Warwick River
    Lowne Thomas 1653 Henry Lowne Henrico
    Lownee Henry 1645 Michael Masters Henrico
    Lownes Edward 1637 Capt Henry Browne James City
    Lownes Mary(& wife) 1652 Richard Starnell ???
    Autrobos John 1653 Henry Lowne Henrico
    Nichols ??? 1653 Henry Lowne Henrico

    Henry also sponsored William Webster, Riddly, Sale , probably servants for his home and plantation.

    Others: The English name Lound is a very historical and distinguished name. Lound England is located due north of London on the east coast; se of Nottingham and in Nottinghamshire Parish.There were several Alexander Lound dating from 1100 at Caves England and one Knighted by King Edward circa 1400

    There is another branch in America with a different armorial with spellling Lowndes, one was once Gov of NC

    There was a Robert Lownes of Winslow, England had a son Robert who settled in with wife Jane Croke in Virginia.
    His younger son William Lowndes of Winslow Co. Bucks m. Ann, dau. And heiress of Sir Thomas Gates a member of the London Co. for med in 1609 for the colonization of Virginia.

    This line seems to have descendants in SC at Crowfield Plantation and a great history in SC politics.

    Still looking for others who are researching my lineage, and I hope what I post may help others’ searches.

    Best to all,
    Margaret Louise Drody Thompson; July 2016

  • 2. Margaret Louise Drody Thompson  |  25/05/2013 at 3:28 pm

    Looking for English parents of Henry Lound to Virgina. Born 1619

    HENRY LOUND
    COMPILED BY Margaret Drody Thompson, July 2012
    Connecting family: Batte, Browne, Edloe, Gower, Hatcher, Ligon

    Henry Lound lived next to William Hatcher as mentioned in William Hatcher’s will. And Henry’s daughter Ann married William’s son Henry Hatcher.

    Henry Lound was born about 1619 according to later depositions in Henrico County. “Henry Lownee” appeared first in Virginia as a headright when Michael Master obtained a patent for land in Bermuda Hundred, Henrico County in 1645.(the “headright system was first used in Virginia. A land owner in Virginia would bring in a worker, and the government would give him 50 acres of land for each worker immigrant obtained this way) Apparently Henry worked hard, and successfully after being brought into the Colony as In March 1652 Henry Lowne patented 300 acres on the north side of the Appomattox River in Henrico County. His land was near that of Abraham Wood. Lound assigned this land to Thomas Wells before 1663 according to a 1672-patent issued to Wells. “Hen. Lownd” was later listed as a headright when Thomas Harris patented land in Lower Norfolk County in 1667. Some of the wealthier citizens would return to England and claim a new headright each time they reentered the colony. It is not surprising then to find another person listed for Henry. He apparently returned to England and reentered for Thomas Harris to claim some land. Lound later secured a patent on 516 acres in Henrico County on the south side of the James River in September 1674. He still owned this 516 acres in 1704. Later we see Henry using this method to gain land, in 1690 the court confirmed Lound was due 200 acres for the importation of three “Negroes” and John Drake. Drake had been an indentured servant for Lound for at least four years. In October 1686 Drake ran off and Lionel Morris of New Kent County caught him about ten miles from home.

    His name was variously spelled ”Lownee”, “Lowne” and “Lounds.” As “Henry Lounds” he was ordered to provide three men in the defense of Henrico County in 1679. In 1686 three of Henry’s Indian servants ran away, but Richard Embry caught them about ten miles away and returned them.

    Mr. Henry Lound and his wife Ann, were socially prominent citizens of Henrico County. He served on Henrico County juries. Their children, both daughters, were Anne and Mary Lound Ann is our ancestor, marrying Henry Hatcher son of William immigrant. Ann died before her husband.

    On Sept 1, 1677: ANN relict of HENRY HATCHER, deceased, was granted administration on her deceased husband’s estate. (Ibid, Vol 1677-92, p 33).

    In August 1678: ANN, HENRY, WILLIAM & MARTHA HATCHER are named orphans of HENRY HATCHER, dec’d, with HENRY LOUND as their guardian. (Ibid, Vol. 1677-1739, p 4).

    On 20 August 1678 Henry Lound presented a deed to the Henrico County court which conveyed livestock to his Hatcher grandchildren: Anne, Henry, Mary, William, and Martha Hatcher. Should they die before becoming of age and marrying then the property would go to his Batte grandchildren. He mentioned also his daughter, then called Anne Moody. 19 August 1678: HENRY LOUND, of Varina Parish, Henrico County, by deed conveyed certain personal to his grandchildren: ANNE HATCHER, HENRY HATCHER, WILIAM HATCHER, & MARTHA HATCHER. (Henrico Records, Vol 1678-93, p 55).

    Before 1683, an Indian boy named Tom joined the Lound household. The Assembly had just passed an act making Indians slaves so Henry had to bring the child to the court house where the justices judged him to be seventeen. The age of slaves was relevant because it influenced when they appeared on the tax rolls. In 1684 two Indian servants, Jack and Will, “unlawfully absented themselves from July 13 until July 27. Not only did this “resulted in damnifying ye Crop of their sd master” but also they lost a buck skin coat and a hatchet and ruined their clothes. Further, to get them back, Lound had to give a “match-coat” to an Indian and paid another person 240 pounds of tobacco.

    In February 1686/7 Lound accused in-law relative Edward Hatcher of stealing a pig. The jury of twelve good citizens of Henrico County heard Gilbert Elam Sr and Gilbert Elam Jr. make depositions for Lound and listened to William Hatcher witness for Edward Hatcher. The arguments convinced the jury the pig was Hatcher’s. The court ordered Lound pay the Elams 40 pounds of tobacco each and made Edward pay William the same.

    In April 1699, it appeared that the Colony might have cause to fear “the Indian commonly called the Emperor of Piscatoway or Architekes and his Indians.” It was ordered that Constable Edward Tanner give notice to all the principal inhabitants and others within his precinct, especially to Captain Joseph Royall, Abraham Womack, Francis Patram, Henry Lound, Henry Hatcher, Thomas Osborne, Thomas Edwards, Thomas Jefferson*, and Edward Haskins, to appear at Court on Friday next, the 21st (Henrico Book 3, p. 225). (Note: Thomas Jefferson* in above paragraph was the grandfather of Thomas Jefferson, 3rd., President of the United States of America.

    On 1 February 1703/4 eighty-four-year-old Henry Lound by deed, gave a slave to his great grandson, Henry Lound Edloe son of . Reference to a great-grandchild is extraordinarily rare in Colonial Virginia. His daughter Ann Lound Hatcher had daughter Martha Hatcher Edloe who had Henry. By the same deed, he gave William Ligon and his granddaughter Elizabeth half his 1674 patent — 258 acres.

    See the Henry Lound Edloe history at the end of this Lound history. Henry’s namesake reared good descendants that left a trail of “Edloe” used as Christian names also in the descendants.

    Henry Lound composed his will on 2 July 1708. Vol. 1706-1709, Will of Henry Lound In the name of God Amen. I Henry Lound of Henrico County, Virginia, being weak in body but of perfect sense and memory praised be Almighty God do will, make, and ordain this my Last Will and Testament in manner and form as follows. Imprimis. I give and bequeath my Soul to God that gave it and my body to the Earth from whence it came to be buried at the discretion of my Executrix hereafter mentioned in sure and certain hope of a Joyful Resurrection at the Last day. Item. I give and bequeath unto my Daughter Mary Batte two hundred fifty acres of land joining upon the land of Capt. John Worsham it being one half of my patent to her and her heirs, executors, and assigns forever. The other half being disposed of already to William Ligon. Item. I give and bequeath unto my Daughter Anne (remarried after Henry Hatcher’s death) Moody one feather bed now in the chamber upstairs, two blankets, one rug, bolster, and pillow and two silver spoons. Item. I give and bequeath to my Daughter Mary Batte my Negro girl Betty to her and her heirs forever. Item. I give and bequeath to my Grandson Henry Hatcher one Shilling. Item. I give and bequeath to my Granddaughter Ann Ward one Shilling. Item. I give and bequeath to my Granddaughter Mary Tanner one Shilling. Item. I give and bequeath to my Granddaughter Martha Blanks one Shilling. Item. I give and bequeath unto my Grandson William Ligon one gray mare marked with a small crop on the right ear with two small nicks on the left now in his possession and a gun commonly called Berham now in his possession. Item. I give and bequeath to my Daughter Anne (Hatcher, sic) Moody one small chest now standing in the chamber upstairs. Item. I give and bequeath to my Granddaughter Elizabeth Ligon my horse named Blaze now in her possession and one small trunk and one brass kettle. And all the remaining part of my estate, moveable and immovable, not yet disposed of I give and bequeath to my Daughter Mary Batte. And I do hereby will, make, ordain, constitute, and appoint my Daughter Mary Batte my full whole and sole Executrix of this my Last Will and Testament she paying all my just debts and legacies. In witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal this second day of July 1708. Henry (H) Lound Witnesses: Thomas Chamberlaine John Wooldridge William Rollo Charles Roberts He left a daughter Mary Batte 250 acres of land — half his patent. He had already disposed of the other half to William Ligon. He identified his other daughter as Anne Moody. To the following grandchildren, he left one shilling: Henry Hatcher, Anne Ward, Mary Tanner, and Martha Blanks. Grandson William Ligon] who inherited a gray mare and gun was not a grandson but the husband of Lound’s granddaughter Elizabeth Ligon who inherited Blaze.

    Widow Mary (Lound) Batte, the executor, presented his will to the Henrico County court on 1 November 1708. After 1708 we can find no record of the name Lound in Colonial Virginia after Henry died.. Though his name disappeared, his descendants are many. Anne Lound, the daughter of Henry and Ann Lound, married Henry Hatcher Henry Hatcher died before 1 September 1677 when Henrico County granted widow, Anne, administration of her deceased husband’s estate.

    Lound referred to his daughter Ann Moody in a 1678 deed and his 1708-will. She married likely Samuel Moody who was a neighbor of her late husband’s father William Hatcher in the tithable list of Henrico County 1679. Samuel Moody was a son of Thomas Moody of Charles City County and his wife, Ann. Thomas died by 1656 when they proved his will. His widow married Francis Redford who became guardian to young Samuel. Thomas Moody held land in Weyanoke Parish when he died and in 1688 Samuel Moody, now grown, secured 82 acres with his own patent. He paid quit rents on this tract in 1704. He held also 328 acres in Prince George County.

    Anne and her husband evidently left Henrico County for no Moody appeared in the deed books of Henrico County for almost fifty years after Henry Lound’s gift to his daughter with that name in 1678. Not until 1726 did Henry Moody witness a deed there. Another witness to this same deed was Anne’s grandson Samuel. Thirty-six years later, in 1762, Henry Moody Sr. and Henry Moody Jr, witnessed Samuel Hatcher’s will. Mary Lound, the daughter of Henry and Ann Lound, married Capt. Henry Batte.Virginians – The Family History of John W. Pritchett http://www.virginians.com Copyright © 2001-2003 Amelia County, VA-Early Marriage
    Bonds; Wm. and Mary College Qrtly., Vol. 16, No. 3 Page 205. April 12, 1774-Huddleston

  • 3. mikelowndes  |  21/09/2012 at 2:22 pm

    Hi all,
    I hope the site will be active for a long time – its just that I have no time to continue my own journey (and thus post!). Since the rise of blogging people have stopped using this site as a ‘hub’ – and simply blogged themselves.
    What I hope to do later in the year is some cleverer aggregation of Lowndes-related content so this site can return to something like a ‘hub’ for info.

  • 4. Ngaire Lowndes  |  18/09/2012 at 3:49 pm

    Hi Felicity,
    Yes, this site is still active, but not very often! I’m also a direct descendant of Joseph Lowndes, via Frank Forbes Lowndes who was my paternal grandfather – his son Roy Lucas Lowndes was my father. I live in England but my sister Emily (yes, named after great-aunt Emily Lowndes!) lives in Auckland and is our family chronicler. NgaireLowndes@yahoo.co.uk is my email.

  • 5. Felicity Balmanno  |  18/09/2012 at 1:42 am

    Hi Iv’e just found this site so don’t know if it is still active. I’m Felicity Balmanno (nee Ledger) my Great Grandmother was Emily Anne Lowndes daughter of Joseph Lowndes and Catherine McKenny. I remember meeting Colin, Vanessa and Roy in Gisborne as a child where I grew up when they came to our house to visit. Also met up in London many years ago. Emily Anne’s granddaughter (my Aunt) is nearly 99 and still lives in Gisborne and has a lot of the Lowndes history which she has shared with me. I have a few photos and remember visits and discussions with Colin, Roy and Noble -including the Lowndes family reunion in Wellington and the Central School reunion in Gisborne.
    Would love to contact you all. I am on Ancestory.com.au if that’s any help, otherwise will watch this site.

  • 6. Andrew  |  08/08/2011 at 12:16 am

    happy to be contacted on alogan@iress.co.nz. Cheers

  • 7. Lois Kay  |  10/07/2011 at 2:20 am

    Hi Patricia
    Thank you for the follow up. Would love to have more about Joseph and his family. You are quite right his first wife was McKenny (not Spears as I had been informed). I am happy to share any information I have but apart from this format I do not know how to make contact with you? I have my data on Family Tree Maker so could send you information. Cheers. Lois Kay (nee Lowndes)

  • 8. Lois Kay  |  10/07/2011 at 2:15 am

    Hello Andrew
    Thank you for that information. I am happy to share any information I have. Miss Green was Madeline Green and she had two children before she married William Edward Lowndes and then my father Bertie Alfred Lowndes and a further son Frederick Eden Lowndes and daughter Elsie Emily Lowndes. My Mother’s name was Ivy May Peckham. Not sure how to contact you apart from this format.

  • 9. Andrew  |  17/04/2011 at 12:34 am

    Sorry Lois, add an extra “great” in my equation. Joseph Lowndes is my great,great,great Grandfather.

  • 10. Andrew  |  16/04/2011 at 10:04 pm

    Hi Patricia, your Dad Alan was my grandfathers brother. Do you have a sister named Susan married to a John Towers? If so I can add you to a gap I have in my tree under Alan 🙂

  • 11. Andrew Logan  |  16/04/2011 at 8:33 am

    Hi Lois,

    Joseph Lowndes is my great great grandfather….Frank Forbes Lowndes (26.9.1870) was my great grandfather through Sydney James Lowndes (1904), Frank Lowndes and my father Dennis. I have a family tree collated in 1985 which has you listed as follows; William Edward Lowndes (11.3.1860) 2nd marriage to Miss Green, a son Bert (Married Ivy Peckon) and then you :-). I am happy to share this booklet with you as I am in Auckland too.

  • 12. Ngaire Lowndes  |  15/04/2011 at 10:28 pm

    Hi Patricia,
    It seems that we are sort-of cousins! Your grandfather Sydney was my father’s older brother. My sister Emily lives in Auckland and is our family chronicler and historian – named after Great-Aunt Emily, of course.
    Joseph Lowndes is buried in Purewa Cemetery, Auckland. The ashes of Laura Louisa Lowndes (Frank’s wife) and Noble Frank Lowndes (oldest son of Laura and Frank) and my father, Roy Lowndes, are also interred in the grave-plot.

  • 13. Marilynn Johnson  |  15/04/2011 at 4:13 am

    I am looking for relatives of Mary Hannah Lowndes who lived at 7 John Street, Ponsonby, Auckland, New Zealand from 1912 to 1920. When I had a fireplace taken out I found some burnt and torn letters and a photo. They are letters sent to the above address by someone in Sefton whose name was possibly Winifred. The photo is of a 1yr old Margaret. If those details mean anything or if anyone has any clues, please email me. I want to pass on what I have found. Thanks, Marilynn Johnson

  • 14. Patricia Marino  |  10/11/2010 at 11:14 am

    Hi Lois,
    My name is Patricia Marino nee Lowndes. I am presently in Australia but am a New Zealnader. I have access to Descendants of Joseph Lowndes.
    Joseph’s first marriage was to Catherine Agnes McKenny and they had 6 children Emily, William, James, Ada , Martha and Frank.
    I come from Frank’s Line and my grandfather was Syndey James who married Doris. They had 4 children Frank, Sydney June and Alan Roy Lowndes. Allan was my Dad.
    Joseph’s 2nd wife was Eliza Atchinson who had 5 children. Ruth lived 3 days, Joseph, Samuel, Harold Alfred and Arthur.
    I had met a cousin of mine last year( Felicity Balmanno) and she comes from Emily her mother was Shelia nee Lowndes and she gave me this geneology. Please feel free to email me if you want to know more. I do have photo’s in New Zealand of my Uncle Sid, Aunty June and my grandmother Doris.

  • 15. Wrought I  |  26/08/2010 at 8:15 pm

    There is a school in Middlewich near Lea Hall, founded in 1603, where eight boys of the parish, selected by the church warden are educated free of expense. The nomination of the master of the school was claimed in 1700 by Robert Lowndes, owing to the fact that he had given the schoolhouse. The name Lowndes is variously spelled. In a list of 99 wills of persons of this name provided between 1586 and 1768, in the probate court of Chester, the name is spelled: Lownds; Lownes; Lounde; Loundes; Lound; Lownde; Lownds; Lowndes.

  • 16. Ngaire Lowndes  |  18/08/2010 at 6:52 pm

    My father Roy was the youngest of SIX brothers, all born in Gisborne, New Zealand. In descending order of age, they were:-
    Noble
    Leonard
    Sidney
    Edward (Ted)
    Colin
    Roy

    Noble, Colin and Roy came over to London in the 1930’s and between them founded and developed the Noble Lowndes group of pensions/insurance companies, which were eventually bought out by Hill Samuel in 1969. Noble is credited with introducing to the London business world the concept of the ‘Top Hat’ pension for higher-paid company executives.
    The company office was in Lowndes Street, Knightsbridge – a wonderful place for we children to have tea prior to Christmas shopping in London.

  • 17. Kenneth L Lowndes  |  11/07/2010 at 7:29 pm

    This site ( http://www.ivamu.com/ ) is all about a new kind of money invented by Kenneth and Jordan Lowndes, (fsather and son).

    It is designed to give back to currency it’s own intrinsic value, by containing precious metal inside.

    It is designed for large economies, as well as smaller ones.

    It is designed to end the world-wide economic crisis.

    Invented by a Lowndes!

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