Lowndes of Overton – possible errors

Irene Parker-Lowndes has found several possible errors to the Geneology presented in Lowndes of Overton. I will be updating the site shortly. Furthermore I have decided to visit Bucks Record Centre soon and photograph the original pedigree (1066-1862) used for reference in that work, for this site.

If you are interested in coming along, get in touch!

Mike

From Kathryn Lowndes, Cheshire, UK (October 2006)

I have only just started looking into the family name but I am intrigued my the number of entries and references I can see to Cheshire so was wondering if anyone knew anything of a Robert Lowndes born in Cheshire in the early twentieth century and any family links to him dating back further?

I’m sure there were quite a few, Kathryn. Robert is a popular name in the family, and the family distribution is centred on Cheshire – any more specific information might help. [Mike]

From John Brian Gouldsmith, UK, (brian.gouldsmith AT btinternet.com), (2006)

In the Baltimore Sun articles, “The Lowndes Family – Distinguished Statesmen in England and America – Early Colonists To Southern Provinces“, mention is made of a Georgina Mary Frances Selby Lowndes marrying a C. Gouldsenitti. I strongly believe Georgina Mary Frances Selby Lowndes to be my paternal grandmother, b. 1875, who on 8th February, 1900, married my grandfather Charles Cecil Gouldsmith, b. 1875.

I sent an email to the Baltimore Sun asking for more information on the original articles and to check the “Gouldsenitti”, name but they have not replied.

My grandmother’s birth certificate confirms that she was born 18th September, 1875, the daughter of Richard William Selby Lowndes and Elizabeth Frances Howard. At this time they were living at 9, Keble Terrace, St. Giles, Oxford.

I would be most interested to hear your views, particularly whether you agree with my strong belief that the Gouldsenitti name in the Baltimore Sun article is either incorrect or a misprint.

Well, yes, it looks very much like a mistake. Can any US Lowndes provide more information? [MIke]

From Richard Daglish, UK (August 2005 / Jan 2006)

My cousin who lives in France is coming to Liverpool (where I live and he was in practice as a solicitor) to research his family’s arrival here and early business association with some ‘legal’ Lowndes, who may also have been connected with HM Customs, or at least in the Customs House. This was early 19th century.
I am trying to do some advance work for him, having working on my family for years. Is there any chance that you know something of ‘legal’ offshoots in Liverpool of your very well-documented people? They also went into average adjusting, but I am not sure how closely they connect with the solicitors, notaries etc..
Some early names include Charles, Richard, John Dawson, Matthew Dobson. Some may have been Unitarians, of whom there were many in Liverpool in the 1st half, 19thC.

Jan 2006: In partnership with a cousin who has retired to France and visits UK only now and then, I have been exploring some Lowndeses who were active in Liverpool (my home and his before retirement) in the 18th and 19th centuries. We have explored your website and material at Preston,Chester and Liverpool Record Offices. His purpose is to gather material for a history of his family’s law practice in Liverpool which feature a Lowndes in its earliest days, but this has led us into curiosity about the widespread and successful family.
We are especially interested in Charles L. of Bostock Hall who went to Bladensburg, had a plot of land in 1742 and married Elizabeth Tasker in 1747, and is described as a prominent citizen and ‘the Maryland progenitor’…
We cannot find any evidence of when he left Cheshire and wonder if you can suggest any way of arriving at the date and perhaps the reason for settling in Maryland. Were there family links already? Did he set out from Liverpool?
Our main interests are in the group of Ls who were merchants, brokers, lawyers, a pilots’ clerk, & customs officials in Liverpool, appearing in directories, rolls of freemen etc. There are traces in correspondence involving the (locally?) famous William Roscoe, who seems to have been a guardian of three young men. We are convinced they link with the family of Richard L. of Bostock / Overton, but need some more detail and possibly help in sorting out those who bore the same Christian names. We have found some Unitarian baptisms, but feel sure there must be others lurking unseen.

If anyone can help Richard, please comment here [Mike]

From Gareth Griffiths, UK (August ’05)

I am a member of SouthCheshire Family History Group and Gwynedd FHS too. I am researching the Turnock/Tunstall family living at Colclough Estate in Goldenhill.

Thomas Tunstall Esq had 2 sons and 2 daughters one of whom, Sophia Tunstall married Revd John Lowndes and Sophia and John lived for a time at Colclough House.Last week I went to the County Record Office at Stafford and from Sophias wills and the Lowndes family papers I noted that this John Lowndes had 2 brother William and Thomas, I have a 95 page document in MSWord running on my current research in which I have connected over 70 families.

Sophias estate was subdivied between 5 of the Tunstalls and I have these xeroxes already.

Now as Goldenhill isnt that far from Astbury (abt 5 miles) presumably John Lowndes is related to the Lowndes of Overton family?
There are many Lowndes graves in Wolstanton parish churchyard to the left of the gate as one enters the churchyard, many large graves with lots of MIs on – maybe worth a further look for you sometime?
Do John, William and their brother Thomas fit into any tree?

I do not have time to follow this up so if any of you do, please comment here [Mike]

From Mrs Margaret WOOD (jomar AT acenet.net.au), Australia, June 2005

During a recent search on the web for details of a LORD & LADY LOWNDES who were in India during a time frame of 1895 to 1900, we came across your site…

Our reason for searching your family is that we are also compiling my Grandmothers history. Her maiden name was GERTRUDE ELLEN FORD and she was by occupation a school teacher, and was hired (we think) as a companion help and governess by a Lord and Lady LOWNDES while they were in India. We do not know which city was involved but we have been led to believe that Lord Lowndes was the Lord Chief Justice or of some such high status.

As children we were fascinated by a couple of brass ornaments always kept bright and shiney which stood on my Grandmother’s sideboard. One was a coiled cobra rearing and ready to strike (which I wasn’t quite keen on) the other which I loved was a small brass peacock. My Grandmother told that she got them while in India but that generation seemed to be very tight mouthed about family matters so that is about all we have to go on. So now we are trying to find the link which can give us the facts on that period of her life.

We noted that in your web site there was no mention of any of your LOWNDES being in India but we thought you may possibly know of which Lord and Lady Loundes we are referring to. We do not have their Christian names unfortunately. We presume they returned to England during or because of the Indian uprising.

My Grandmother married Hubert Harry BEST in 1900 in Dorset and they migrated with their family of 5 one of which was my Father 1n 1924.

If anynone can help, please comment here [Mike]